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 Friday, February 25, 2005
We currently use Multilizer in our product. However, we really don't use all of the features. It's use is pretty confined to "dynamically display messages" and "translate captions/labels on forms". Using Delphi 6 with Multilizer 5, things work fairly well.

We are also preparing the switch to Delphi 2005 in the next couple weeks. After contacting Multilizer, it turns out that there is no support for Multilizer 5 with Delphi 2005, and as a result, we would be required to spend many thousands of dollars to upgrade to Multilizer 6. That isn't a very attractive option. As of this writing, Multilizer will be thrown out of here, never to return. I'm investigating using Delphi's built-in Integrated Translation Environment (ITE) at the moment. I remember there were all sorts of problems with ITE early on (like in the Delphi 3/4 days). I'm hoping enough work has been done in this area to make it usable for our fairly simple needs. If not, we're writing our own tools to do this.

I believe component vendors should provide version compatible releases for newer versions of Delphi. Most component vendors actually do this quite well. I also believe that when companies try to force you into spending thousands of dollars, you should look to replace them immediately.

Friday, February 25, 2005 11:28:00 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)  #    Comments [8] -
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Friday, February 25, 2005 2:08:00 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Dan,

Isn't this the norm for software products today? Delphi 2005 can 'force' you to spend thousands of dollars, if you didn't buy the software assurance. Many products I can think of follow this paradigm. Sounds like your point is that its not worth thousands of dollars to support the limited functionality you require.

BTW, what company are you now working for?
Bill Kirkman
Friday, February 25, 2005 3:57:00 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Bill,



I think you're comparing apples and oranges here. My specific gripe is with component vendors. We use several third party controls, and Multilizer is the only one that is not offering their older components for D2005. DevEx is the perfect counter-example to Multilizer. You can get practically any version of their components for practically any version of Delphi.



I can even see paying a small maintenance fee, but it would have to be small since most everything I have experienced and read WRT source compatibility with D2005 Win32 projects leads me to believe that it wouldn't be much more effort to provide this.



Furthermore, version 6 of Multilizer takes away the ability to deploy dictionary files, according to another developer here. We rely on that feature pretty heavily.



In the end, we may lose more short-term money by switching to ITE or our own custom-developed solution, but we will then be prepared for newer updates and keep the features we need.



Still living/working in Wisconsin. I'm at TIP Technologies right now. Where are you at?
Friday, February 25, 2005 4:11:00 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Dan,

K, if just looking at component vendors I'll have to take your word for them :-). I haven't used many third party solutions and what few I have do indeed give you an upgrade path with possibly a small fee if not

for free.

In Illinois still at Concentra Preferred Systems.
Bill Kirkman
Saturday, February 26, 2005 3:23:00 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Something we've had to learn the hard way in dealing with precisely this issue:



Always, always, always buy the source code version (if at all available). Then you can hack it yourself.
Matt G
Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:08:00 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I absolutely agree with you, Matt. Unfortunately, I don't believe Multilizer has that option.
Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:10:00 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Still using the old HIP eh? Well, I've just discovered an issue.



If you're logged in as Admin, and you're viewing a page's comments, you should see "Remove this comment" right?



Well, with the implementation of the HIPControl, even when you click "Remove this comment", it doesn't remove it, because you didn't fill in the code. Capish?
Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:45:00 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Please can you do another blog whene you've tried the ITE/D2005 combination. The support for international applications certainly looks much more comprehensive in D2005. I'd be interested to know how you get on with it!
Colin Wilson
Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:47:00 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Will do, Colin. Great idea.



After a few hours of playing with it, it seems pretty decent. I don't like the fact that you have to Update Resources AND do a Build All after code changes, but if that's the only down-side, we'll probably go that way. I still need to evaluate the external translation manager to see how that works.



Right now, I'm working on the architecture for a custom-built tool. Then we can compare the 2 solutions to see which way we want to go.
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